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proposed development of old David Rice hospital Norwich,

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:08pm
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JuneM

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The friend I dog sit for is v ery concerned about the proposal to apply for planning permission to build houses on this site, near where she lives in Hellesdon,  This has been turned down once before but is being applied for again. The site has many wildflowers, a rare orchid was found there, wildlife and is a green oasis in a part of the city where much other development is planned.Its used by walkers, dog walkers, joggers etc., There is a planned photo session coming up on Thursday, early moring, attended by many who walk their dogs there, from the local Drayton magazine, and the EDP is on the case to.  If anyone in the area is interested in helping to stop this development please contact me on here and I will put you in touch with my friend,  I know we need housing, but it sounds like these wont be affordable and surely there is enough development in the city now,  We do need some green spaces left. 

Thank you June M.

 

Sheila A

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:08am

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:08am

Morning JuneM,

You do realise the people who walk their dogs on that land are breaking the law! It is private property but people have chosen to break down part of the fencing to walk/jog/walk dogs. Why do you think there was a fence put round. There is notice attached to the gates to say it is private property.  Why do you think there are big gates there  which are locked to keep people out.

I for one would like to see the land used again, if not for housing maybe they could develop it into a nice open space for all to use, like a nice big garden.

JenB

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:40am

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:40am

This is always going to be a controversial subject green fields versus housing I agree as it is private land you should not be trespassing but also believe the amount of housing they want to put there is far to many and green spaces should be incorporated in new developments.

JenB

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:41am

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:41am

JuneM wrote on Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:08pm:

The friend I dog sit for is v ery concerned about the proposal to apply for planning permission to build houses on this site, near where she lives in Hellesdon,  This has been turned down once before but is being applied for again. The site has many wildflowers, a rare orchid was found there...

..., wildlife and is a green oasis in a part of the city where much other development is planned.Its used by walkers, dog walkers, joggers etc., There is a planned photo session coming up on Thursday, early moring, attended by many who walk their dogs there, from the local Drayton magazine, and the EDP is on the case to.  If anyone in the area is interested in helping to stop this development please contact me on here and I will put you in touch with my friend,  I know we need housing, but it sounds like these wont be affordable and surely there is enough development in the city now,  We do need some green spaces left. 

Thank you June M.

 

Hello JuneM welcome to Norwich forum I do recognise you from streetlife

JuneM

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:06am

JuneM

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:06am

JenB wrote on Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:40am:

This is always going to be a controversial subject green fields versus housing I agree as it is private land you should not be trespassing but also believe the amount of housing they want to put there is far to many and green spaces should be incorporated in new developments.

My friend is a very law abiding person Sheila,and she certainly wouldn't be breaking down any fences to walk her dog.  Yes we know houses are necessary but there huge amounts of development going on in city at moment,most of it is unaffordable to locals anyway,so you have to question the need for anymore,.  I cant imagine any developer turning it over to a "green space" can you.  Most of them only interested in a fast buck, If interested in preserving it, they would NO. 1 built much more attractive and spacious housing than the tiny close together dwellings they build now and NO.2 use brownfield sites as much as possible.  It isn't only the building, Drayton Road is choca block now with traffic, public transport in Norwich Is rubbish, more like a country town than a city.  And where are the schools, doctors etc to support all this development.   Before any more development is considered in Norwich, these issues need to be addressed as well,.June M 

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JuneM

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:07am

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:07am

Sorry Sheila and Jen B, im getting used to this new system after streetlife. JuneM

PaulC47

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:14pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:14pm

The site is an open space now because the original buildings were demolished. In fact it will be classed as a brownfield site to tick a few boxes for the local authority. Drayton is no more than an outer suburb but having said that there is still plenty of open area to let Rover loose on. 

Earlhamroader

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:46am

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:46am

Sheila A wrote on Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:08am:

Morning JuneM,

You do realise the people who walk their dogs on that land are breaking the law! It is private property but people have chosen to break down part of the fencing to walk/jog/walk dogs. Why do you think there was a fence put round. There is notice attached to the gates to say it is private property...

....  Why do you think there are big gates there  which are locked to keep people out.

I for one would like to see the land used again, if not for housing maybe they could develop it into a nice open space for all to use, like a nice big garden.

Members of the public have legal access to this land as you would know if you went there. It is a beautiful area appreciated by many and I would be keen to oppose any development  

Stu99

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:31am

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:31am

It is a brownfield site, and I personally would like to see it developed as a park and social amenity for the area. But we have to be realistic. There are not enough houses being built in this country. This is the main reason house prices have risen so much, because they are in short supply. To make houses more affordable, supply must at least satisfy the demand and ideally from the buyers perspective it should even exceed demand. More housing is needed everywhere. The David Rice site is an enormous area and can readily absorb 27 houses, which is the number I have heard mentioned. The term "Affordable Housing" is a red herring. The only way to make them affordable is to have more of them.

JuneM

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:35am

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:35am

PaulC47 wrote on Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:14pm:

The site is an open space now because the original buildings were demolished. In fact it will be classed as a brownfield site to tick a few boxes for the local authority. Drayton is no more than an outer suburb but having said that there is still plenty of open area to let Rover loose on. 

Paul there is to be considerable housing proposed on the old Golf club site and as I said much more development in the city.  None of you who seem to believe that Norwich should be concreted over,seem to take into account, the infrastructure needed to support all this housing.  Norfolk and Norwich hospital is too small now for the growing population, the doctors lists are full, as are schools, Public transport in Norwich is rubbish for a city anyway, especially outer suburbs, you have to have a car, if you live there. I don't drive that's why I live nearer the city. But no one seems to care about this, just develop and damm  the consequences, And can you inform me how much of this development will be affordable. Very little id say,  I read the other day the housing shortage will not be improved by more building, because problem is such massive deposits are needed, people cant afford to find that, let alone get a mortgage. A complete overhaul of housing policy is needed in UK but the problem wont be solved by building unaffordable housing everywhere that people cant afford.  This isn't a problem just here,its same all over UK and no government seems to have any idea what do about it. June M. 

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