No left Turn sign Turney Road into Burbage Road- 33e PCN

Now had response from Southwark that they have considered the representations and have decided to accept representations and cancelled this ticket " due to an administrative error".  

Hi Ryan

i think this also applies to motorists negotiating the Roundabout Northbound from College Road.

although there are red signs placed along College Road indicating a restriction ahead none tell you where the restriction actually is.

if a restriction is placed on a roundabout exit itself any driver who commits to the exit has very little time to avoid the restriction safely

Wayne

Thanks. I’ll read the other examples. I think I missed these the first time round.

I appreciate your comments. The only similarity is that turning left or going around the roundabout doesn’t give you sufficient time to read the information and abort your manoeuvre safely.

with so many exits from the roundabout it is confusing to the motorist.

Has anyone mentioned the fact that having signs on the road divert your attention to the blue signs

regards Wayne

When challenging moving traffic contraventions, just focus on the exact PCN location and the grounds of appeal for that specific restriction, referring to another bus gate would serve no purpose. Unless you were appealing the Burbage Road Bus Gate…as the Turney Road Bus Gate begins immediately ahead, which in essence creates a cul-de-sac for the driver, which leaves the motorist less options to escape…blah blah.

I would advise reading responses to penalties on Pepipoo motorist forum, just type “Dulwich” in the search field at the bottom of page or “Burbage” or “Turney” or “Townley” as these are the local Bus Gate locations.

Or 

If you want to read the public register of appeals for adjudicators decisions
You can read appeal decisions here…
London Tribunals Register of Appeals https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/about/registers-appeals

Click “Access the appeal portal”

Click “Statutory Registers”

Under “Environment and Traffic Adjudicators” click “Search”

In the search field Enforcing Authority type “Southwark council”

In the search field PCN location type either “Dulwich Village%”
or “Burbage Road%” or “Turney Road%” or “Townley Road%” (depending upon which specific bus gate PCN location appeals you want to see…you can search any PCN restriction location in London, the PCN locations are on the Penalty Charge Notice paperwork, examples can be seen on Pepipoo motorist forum).

In the search field start date select date from this year

In the search field Outcome select either “rejected” or “allowed” or “all”
(depending on what decision you want to see).

You can then learn the grounds which are winning appeals at London Tribunals.

When the council reject the motorist’s representation, they issue their Notice of Rejection with the appeal code or you can pay the penalty at the discounted rate of £65 (which they normally offer). Otherwise the motorist would have nothing to lose risking the full penalty rate of £130 at London Tribunals. If you wish to take the appeal to London Tribunals, its advised to view recent appeals to understand your chances of the adjudicator cancelling the penalty.

Hi Ryan,

I am appealing an almost identical contravention at Burbage Road Junction Turney Road (North Westbound). Can I ask how you went about appealing this? Did you email Southwark Council separately, or did you make a Representation via the portal on the Southwark Council website? 

Also, i don't suppose you know whether I will be liable for the full amount if the appeal is unsuccessful (but still within the

@James I have sent you message regarding the bus gate pcn

Also those reps of mine need updating, since more things have come to light regarding appealing this bus gate and how adjudicators are responding to certain points of the appeal.

Hi 

i agree with Wayni as this happened to me a couple of days ago where i turned into College Road from Thurlow Park Road (again no prewarning of changes to traffic regulations ahead). Once already turned into college road I noticed the sign for 'no through route' but was confused as i had oncoming traffic. There's no way of knowing where when the restriction will come. I then arrived at the junction and turned left to Burbage Road and again too late to respond to the sign. Only after having entered was I able to decipher the new times restricted road. There's a sign only at the entrance but just didn’t have enough time to work out what the sign is stating. There should be a red 'no entry' sign for cars between hrs xy. Rather thsn a small blue one for bus, taxi and cyclists.

Has anyone else got a 33e contravention and successfully appealed please?

Thanks Angels