proposed development of old David Rice hospital Norwich, - Page 2

I would just add that Norfolk & Norwich Hospital was too small right from day one. It was built having the exact same bed capacity as the old Hospital. Great planning. And the cost of the build was something like £250 million, whereas with the PFI it will finish up costing nearer to £1 billion pounds by the time the taxpayer has finished paying the instalments. Now they are talking about spending another £130 million on an extension!.

You are right Stu99 the hospital was a joke from the start it is all about profits for the big businesses I could never understand why they built it that way. I now see even new built houses are not guaranteed to be freehold but leasehold at a cheap rate to start and then they are sold on to other businesses who put them up. Everything is changing not for the better I think.

The people who move into new developments already exist and therefore are using their share of schools, surgeries and the infrastructure and utilities somewhere now. The major shortage crisis in this country is housing itself and the thought that it should go somewhere else is unrealistic.

If you seriously believe that many people in Norfolk can afford these these new properties that are being built, I fear you are sadly mistaken. I know many young couples who haven't actually got a hope of affording them.  Many will be bought by people moving in from the highly expensive London and S, eastern areas and they will need schools, doctors etc.

Yes we need housing but small scale development in cities and towns is way to go, not covering Norwich with huge housing estates.  We also need to curb buys to let where people buy up properties and charge exorbitant rents people cant afford,. And also we need to stop selling council and housing association houses off,unless ones to replace them can be built, That would help to solve the housing crisis not constantly building houses in the 200,000 and upwards bracket that Norfolk wages  will never buy.June M

JuneM. When we were saving for a house in the 70's, I was earning less than £2000 per year, I was the only earner and we had two children. We did not go on holidays, nor did we have a social life. I was paid on Wednesdays and frequently the money was gone by Tuesday. And yet we did it. It took us 8 years to save up a deposit, and then when we moved in we had no furniture and no bed. The trouble with a lot of the young nowadays (and before someone jumps on my head, I don't mean all of them) they want it all, the smart phones, the washing machines the flat screen televisions and a good social life. I have no sympathy with many of them as they just do not know what hardship and austerity is. Austerity is what we had in the 1940/50 and 60's. We do not have it today. I know one young person, he is 32 years old, still living with his parents virtually rent free for 16 years and he says he cannot afford to buy his own house.

Well ive never married and I lived with my parents for many years and has an only child inherited their house when they died, so maybe Ive more in common with the young today than you have Stu 99. It didn't make me rich it was a small house and I had to buy a flat when I moved to Norwich But you cant compare today with the 50s and 60s, and its ridiculous to me that so many of our generation do. Times have changed,people expect more and whats wrong with that, our generation did, although many of you seem to have short memories,.  I remember thinking it amazing ,my granddad had never been to London. but my parents had more than their generation and we had more than our parents, although I spose as an only child I was luckier than many.

Theres nothing wrong with wanting this and that,  smart phones etc, I expect the young to want them,. Many of our generation annoy me cause they go on about the young not wanting hardship etc,  they forget when we were young, yes you could buy a house for next to nothing  , agree though a lot on wages in those days, but jobs were regular, full time, and secure with possibly a final salary pension at retirement, Not like now with zero hour contracts,  try getting a mortgage on one of them, and they are not secure  and final salary pensions are practically extinct . . You are very unlikely now to get any property under 200,000 say in Norwich, possibly a terraced older type, but even they are approaching that , you need a huge deposit to buy one, and don't forget also in  those days you could rent a flat cheaply, I worked in an estate agents then so I know, now the rents are enormous, and you still have to pay council tax, heating etc, to, its impossible unless you live so frugally life isn't worth liv ing to have any chance of saving for a deposit,  And why should people have to live that way, we expect conditions to get better not worse,  I don't look back to so called good old days and criticize the young.thats what sets generations against each other. I believe we should be progressing, instead we seem to be going backwards, not something I want to see.June M

We will just have to agree to disagree JuneM. My opinion is no less valid than yours.